Wednesday, June 06, 2012

On Wisconsin

I doubt too many were surprised at Scott Walker's victory in yesterday's recall election.  When Barack Obama won't appear in your state but only tweet his support, you know he doesn't want to get on board a sinking ship.

Now that it's all over, I hope the people who insisted on a recall are asking if it was worth it.  All the screaming and shouting, all the work, all the ugliness, all the money, and we get another election with practically the same result as the original one.  In fact, I think the annoyance factor with the whole rigmarole helped Walker.

I remember when California had the recall election for Gray Davis.  People felt he was not only doing a bad job, but going back on promises he'd made.  And darned if they didn't kick him out.  Still, is this the way to do things?  Politicians regularly disappoint us, which is why we have regularly scheduled elections.  I'm not that sympathetic to the plight of our leaders, but they face enough pressure to bend to the public will without having to worry that any slip-up could mean they'll be gone as soon as possible.

As for the wider implications of Wisconsin, it's hard to say.  Just because Democrats have been spinning for weeks saying the election doesn't matter (any more, now that we're going to lose) doesn't mean they're wrong.

I doubt very much this means Romney will take Wisconsin. Maybe the state isn't quite as solid blue as once thought, but it sure still leans Obama.  The real question is what does this mean to public unions.  This was where they made a stand.  Where they gave it all they got. And they discovered that even a relatively enlightened state may think they've gone too far.  But it shouldn't be too surprising in an age when even The New York Times editorializes against their pensions.  Of course, if the unions are hurt, it could hurt the Democrats, since they're a major source of funding and if people can opt out of dues, there may not be as much money to go around.

One more question.  Why are exit polls so often misleading?  According to the exit polls in Wisconsin, the race was supposed to be very close, but Walker won by a fairly solid marging.  Something must be wrong in the sampling, but is it due to bad training in pollsters, or just the fact that you can't force people to take these polls so you get incorrect results?

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Polls don't matter any more. I ghet so annoyed when I received dinneer time or Saturday morning calls that I deliberately lie I think years ago polls were less frequent and participating in them seemed to be a big deal- now they are an annoyance.

Was the recall worth it- I doubt that Walker's program going forward will be as in-your-face as it was before. Given the public discontent over public union excesses, he probably could have acheived 50-75% of goals without all the rancor.

4:06 AM, June 06, 2012  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, this was the least of the rancor he would get for taking the money away. He's lucky he wasn't shot.

4:43 AM, June 06, 2012  
Anonymous Denver Guy said...

The exit polling is a useless exercise. It tells you the thoughts (or lies) of a self-selected group of people who aren't in a rush after voting and are willing to disclose their private vote (or want to manipulate the exit poll). They don't catch anyone who votes by mail or votes early.

What bothers me is the spin now that the exit polls show Obama with a 7 point lead in WI. Why would anyone trust exit polls that said it was a 50/50 race between Walker and Barrett to tell them anything about the presidential race in WI?

5:49 AM, June 06, 2012  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm guessing the Obama campaign (and presumably the other candidate's) had better polling info than the crap the public is seeing.

7:02 AM, June 06, 2012  
Blogger LAGuy said...

I've been told exit polls are a bit misunderstood. They're not meant to predict results (though they can give some indication). Instead, you wait for the actual results of the election and then you adjust the results of the exit poll to fit them. After that, you can do proper data mining to figure what groups did what.

9:36 AM, June 06, 2012  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats have settled around the talking point that they lost because of money. Just keep believing that if you want to lose over and over.

5:25 PM, June 06, 2012  

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