Wednesday, September 17, 2008

The Conservative Case For Obama

It's quite short, so please read the whole thing, but here's a couple of lines that stuck out for me:

"Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world “safe for democracy.” It is John McCain who says America’s job is to “defeat evil,” a theological expansion of the nation’s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth."

"I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. . . . Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it as an ally. The crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will not impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened."

I suppose it's one reasonable interpretation of conservatism. Kind of like Gov. George W. Bush's railing against "nation-building." But certainly not the only one.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's an interpretation of conservatism, but not a reasonable one. I can redefine liberalism as exactly what John McCain represents if I want to get abstract enough, too.

The piece is against cutting taxes! If there's any lodestar to conservative economic plans it's keeping the government as small as is possible, and keeping as much of the citizens' money in their own pockets as possible.

When it comes to taking on enemies, the single greatest task of modern conservativism (i.e., starting some time after World War 2) was to fight and bring down the greatest opponent to the free world, communism. They essentialy succeeded, but not before fighting a lot of threatening a lot in a way that the writer of this piece opposes, and not before being called crazy and evil by the left year after year.

We have a new threat, and if Obama, or anyone else, thinks it can be with only a carrot and no stick--a stick that includes fighting--we're in deep trouble. I certainly would be opposed to any president ever taking us implusively into a war--it hasn't happened lately, but it might happen in the future--but far more likely to get us into serious war and violence is waiting too long to deal with a problem properly because you figure you can charm your way out of it. (I'm being a bit unfair to Obama, who opposes the war in Iraq but has actually shown much more bloodlust than McCain when it comes to fighting elsewhere.)

2:24 PM, September 17, 2008  
Blogger VermontGuy said...

Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man’s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.

This is supposed to be Obama's "deeply conservative" view of the world?

4:53 PM, September 17, 2008  
Blogger QueensGuy said...

Well, yeah, actually:

"For one thing, Mr. Obama’s courses chronicled the failure of liberal policies and court-led efforts at social change: the Reconstruction-era amendments that were rendered meaningless by a century of resistance, the way the triumph of Brown gave way to fights over busing, the voting rights laws that crowded blacks into as few districts as possible. He was wary of noble theories, students say; instead, they call Mr. Obama a contextualist, willing to look past legal niceties to get results."

7:41 PM, September 17, 2008  
Blogger VermontGuy said...

Well, I'll buy the part about "looking past legal niceties to get results".

Maybe it's the "results" he wants that's the issue.

7:18 AM, September 18, 2008  
Blogger QueensGuy said...

Ain't it always?

8:57 AM, September 18, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if Obama were a Conservative in really really liberal clothing, it would not behoove conservatives to vote for him. Obama is one man, and he will be President, not king. Just as George Bush did nothing to disrupt the big spending tendencies in a Republican controlled Congress, I hardly expect Obama to tamp down the zeal with which the Democrat controlled Congress will seek to implement every program they've dreamed of (and promised their constituents) since losing power in 1994. 12 years means a lot of pent up demand for their kind of "change."

10:14 AM, September 18, 2008  

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