Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Hurley Burly

A lot of action in this week's episode, "Everybody Loves Hugo," but even more confusion. They're starting to have a sense of purpose, but there's still a lot of waiting for all the pieces to fall into place. Still, we got some short, sharp shocks this week.

I like the character Hurley a lot, but he's usually best on the sidelines, making comments. This episode forced him to be a leader, but the results are still very open.

We start with museum master Pierre Chang introducing Man Of The Year Hugo Reyes. This is the altaworld, of course, and we learn Hurley's past--not a lottery winner (I think), but a chicken magnate.

Meanwhile, he's even less lucky in love here than in the Island world. He's even more shy, as well. His mother sets him up on the blind date to get things going. Moms.

Back on the island, Hurley is talking to Libby's grave. He realizes the irony--dead people come to talk, but not the one he'd most like to see. Ilana comes by and tells Hurley pretty soon they'll be moving on to Hydra Island to blow up the plane (which everyone thinks is gonna fly, but I still say it's grounded). She leaves and who should show up but Michael, probably the last dead person Hugo wants to see. Shooting Ana Lucia, okay, everyone gets that, but did you have to shoot Libby?

But it's time for a message from Michael. If you blow up that plane, people will die. And since people are listening to you for the first time, it'll be your fault. Jack comes by and says they're leaving. What will Hurley do?

In the altaworld he's sitting in a restaurant waiting for his date. It turns out to be...Libby?! It's sweet to see the reunion, but Libby's acting strange. He can't believe his good luck, but it turns out she's crazy, out on a field trip from the Santa Rosa nuthouse. However, Libby senses the connection the two have. If there were only one world, this could be sitcom fodder, but with two worlds, she's on to something. Hugo's touched by the soulmates talk until Libby's doctor finds her and leads her away. It's also Hugo's old doctor--good thing Doc has no memories of the other world or he'd scoop up Hugo in his net.

On the island, Ilana's got the dynamite and is making big speeches. Not a good thing to do around Hurley, and she blows up just like Arzt. Ilana is just doing what Richard said and Richard isn't thinking clearly, but her death is still a major shock. Guess she won't get her own episode.

Sawyer and Kate ask Flocke why are they just sitting around. I want to know, too. He says good things come to those who wait, and explains to them what the real plan is. All the candidates need to get together and get on that plane. Just then, zombie Sayid comes to fake Locke to tell him about zonked out Desmond. All three have a scene, but it's almost like the altaworld--we know all these characters, but none are quite the same.

Back to the beach. Richard just wants more dynamite. No Plan B for him. Just the same plan, sans Ilana. Jack isn't happy--he promised people they'd get off the island--but new leader Hurley steps in and agrees with Richard. Finally, his words, and not just him, have weight.

Meanwhile, "Lucky" Hugo is eating a bucket of (free) chicken. Des spots him. I don't think this is a coincidence. He starts talking to Hurley, who's willing to listen to this stranger. This might normally be odd, but in the altaworld, people have connections.

Hugo says he met a great gal, but she's nuts. Des says go with your gut, and don't give up on her. It wasn't clear last week how Des would go about it. Apparently he won't take the full-on Charlie route, but will try the nudge technique. (His number at the chicken place is..well, you can guess).

Flocke talks to Des, but it's not clear how much either knows, or how much either knows what the other knows. Is this a real conversation, or cat and mouse? Des says "you're John Locke." Does he know better? Flocke sends Sayid away (we know he doesn't care) and Flocke and Des go for a walk.

Ilana's former group is walking to the Black Rock. Ben says what a lot of us are thinking. Ilana spent her life training for Jacob, yet she blowed up real good. That's what you get for working with Jacob. As Ben puts it, "The Island was done with her. Makes me wonder what's gonna happen when it's done with us."

Two things 1) What do you mean "us," kemo sabe? We're the candidates, we're not in the same outrigger with you. Or are we? 2) More important, we're seeing a little spark of the old Ben. Good.

They get to the Black Rock, but Hugo got their first (I thought he was weak on island directions) and he blows it up. That was his plan, as we suspected--anyway, we knew he wasn't going along with Richard. Speaking of whom, Richard blows his top. Why did you do that, he asks the guy who not too long ago was speaking to the dead for him and helping him regain his sense of purpose.

(By the way, we keep seeing ads for ABC shows that star one Lost actor or another.)

Miles and Hugo have a talk. Hugo mentions Michael, a dead person Miles isn't familiar with. Hugo explains he'd rather listen to dead people--they have less reason to lie.

At the sanitarium, rich Hugo bribes his way in to see Libby. It's famliar territory for him, if he only knew. "Just visiting," as they say in Monopoly.

Libby is glad to see him. And like any guy, he's just glad a hot chick likes him. She wants to know if he remembers. Since he hasn't been near death lately (though all that fried chicken...) he doesn't. But he's willing to listen. She saw him do a Mr. Cluck's ad and knew there was something (and they call it, Charlie). She remembers a plane crash, an island, Hurley there, etc. (Does she remember anything about her backstory in that world, because we're not getting any in this episode.) She also remembers Hurley in the hospital, with her. If only he'd remember, it'd prove she's not crazy. But hey, crazy is one thing, let's have a date anyway. She's there voluntarily, so no problem.

Flocke and Des walk and talk. They seem to have trouble with the island, though both are hiding what they know (it would seem). Flocke sees the weird kid (a little older, I think) and almost freaks out. For an all-powerful monster, he's sort of a scaredy cat.

At the former Black Rock, Richard is panicking, and fights with yesterday's benefactor, Hugo. Hugo claims to see Jacob (we see, I think, he's lying), who says it's time to talk to Locke. So that's Hugo's plan. Funny, I thought that was Locke's plan too. I guess Hugo wasn't at the Temple when he killed everyone, so he figures it's worth a powwow.

Richard's not buying it (though he bought it easily enough about his gal) and demands proof. Jacob never tells people what to do. (Is that true? Didn't he have lists? Didn't he tell Hurley what he should do?) He says ask what the island is, some time ago Jacob told him. W-w-w-what?! So Jacob usually keeps everyone in the dark, but he told Richard what the island is. I guess he's referring to the cork in the bottle that keeps evil fresh in the fridge. Or was there some other meeting we didn't see when Jacob explained it's an Egyptian spaceship?

You'd think everyone would beg Richard to tell them what this place is, even Sun in Korean, but the standoff is what counts here. Hurley don't play dat, and says he doesn't have to prove anything. Richard's going back to the barracks to find more weapons--what else can he do? )(Though you can probably destroy a plane with the stuff at the Hydra station, when you think about it.) Ben decides to go with him--maybe he can be king of Dharmaville again. At least he can sleep in a nice bed. Miles goes, too. He saw Flocke's damage, and besides, he's not a Candidate so who cares. But Jack goes with Hugo this time. Let Hugo lead. All the others go along, too.

On the torchlight parade to Flocke, Sun and Lapidus admit it may be a mistake, but hey, it's a small island, might as well confront Smokey. Jack admits he knew Hurley lied about Jacob, but he's got a new attitude--gotta let go. All those years of being the leader, he now figures the Island has a plan, and maybe Hurley knows it. Certainly Jack's leadership didn't work out too well.

Then they hear something. The Whispers!!! Hurley says he thinks he knows what these things are. We've been waiting since season one to find out. Hurley goes and sees Michael. Hurley knows Michael's stuck on the island, as others are. He's stuck because of what he did.

Now just what does this mean? Hard to believe they're in purgatory, or they're ghosts (as we normally understand ghosts). More likely (I'd guess) they're just people who could exist in the altaworld--the people Hurley can see--but aren't allowed to get off the island because of how they acted. He at least seems like one of those "ghosts" Hurley saw back on the mainland. Are they all old Candidates? Is Smokey on of these people not allowed to leave?

It doesn't seem to fit with what little we know about the Whispers. The only info we had on them was a young Ben telling a young Rousseau to run the other way when she heard them. I thought he said that because it had something to do with the Others. Maybe they were Others--Others who'd screwed up some way, and weren't revived properly at the Temple or something like that. Just like Lost. Answer one question, raise ten more.

Speaking of which, how does Michael, dead or alive, know so much that he can give Hurley good advice? Does he have extra vision?

Michael points Hurley toward Locke. Before Hurley can leave, he apologizes for Libby (but not Ana Lucia). What's interesting is Michael figures Hurley may see Libby again.

And there they are, on the beach in altaworld, having that long postponed date. She knows they've done this already, but Hurley's still not feeling it. And then she kisses him. Hurley doesn't need a near-death experience (or is this his near-death experience), this alone gives him those flashes. He gets it. That's so nice. We were all hoping they'd get together, and you don't date delusional hot chicks more than a few times.

By the way, I don't believe Hurley had a chance to look at his reflection this episode (except maybe in Libby's eyes). Guess he didn't need to--he saw the other world, didn't need anything else.

Looking on is Des. He's not rounding up everyone, he's doing it piece by piece. It seemed a little haphazard at first, but this is Des the fixer, he's in control. He drives off.

Flocke has led Des to the well. (Well, "a" well. It can't be the Orchid well, can it?--that would still be in the building.) We know something's gonna happen. (We can also guess Flocke can't use the donkey wheel to get off the island or he would have done it long ago.) Flocke explains it's an old well--it screwed up compasses, so they dug it by hand. (How old are compasses, anyway?) They were looking for answers. Good luck, this is Lost island, no answers here.

Flocke says Widmore just wants power, not answers, which is why he brought Des. I'm inclined to believe him. Widmore can't just be on the same side as Ilana, can he? Now the mask comes off. Flocke wants to know why Des isn't afraid, all alone with him in the jungle. Des says what's the point of being afraid. Is that a que sera sera attitude, or is it more a "I'm living in the altaworld, I see where things are going, so do your worst, I've got my own plans." Anyway, Flocke tosses him down the well, as we sort of expected. Will this kill him? Well, Locke fell halfway down the well and broke his leg. Juliet fell even further and survived long enough to explode a bomb. What do you think?

It's getting hard to believe Flocke is the good guy, though I still think he believes he's the wronged party. He gets back to Sayid (did he travel smoke express?), wipes his hands and says that problem's been taken care of.

Meanwhile, Sawyer and Kate are still tired of no explanations from Smokey. But before Sawyer can say something clever--son of a bitch, it's Hugo. (He always was sort of a warrior.) Hugo confronts Flocke and says he comes in peace. Flocke hands over his knife and says fine. A nice gesture, but the guy can turn into smoke and kill everyone if he wants. (We know he won't--he needs them--but does Hugo know?)

Jack and the rest come out. There's Sun--she looks around. Still no Jin. Wouldn't it be funny if they never get around to meeting again?

Flocke seems most interested in Jack--the old rivalry, no matter what spirit is in the body. It also seems that Flocke knows what he's doing, which is actually pretty scary.

Cut to Locke the substitute wheeling his way home. Des is watching from his car. The officious Ben wants to know what he's doing. Ben thinks someone else is too creepy? Anyway, Des handles Ben--even tells him his son's name is Charlie (just like Claire knew her son's name was Aaron) and then drives over to get to Locke--and drives into Locke. Locke bounces off the car and isn't looking too well.

LOST

Now what are we supposed to make of this final action? For a while I figured Des figured the whole Hugo scheme took too long, let's just throw 'em right into near death. But then I figured that's going too far--and how can he be sure it'd be just "near" death.

My guess is this is Des knowing what to do. Ever since the electormagnetic moment last week, Des is a changed man...on the island, anyway. He knows his purpose (even if we're not sure of it). Maybe some of that crossed over to the altaworld. Charlie might have helped a bit, but perhaps somehow the new Des know Locke is the center, maybe the evil center, of the whole game. And he has to be dealt with. Not necessarily killed, but shaken up enough so that it effects the game back on the island.

In fact, maybe Flocke tossing Des down the well was part of the game. Des just knows it's a bigger game--not merely about the well. Why worry about that when a whole 'nother game is being played out elsewhere. Maybe even somehow Des, with his compass spinning around, can send a message to Fixer Des, and tell him "he throws you down a well, you run him over."

Or maybe they both think they're doing what should be done--Des is doing what needs to be done to Locke, and Flocke doing what needs to be done to Des.

We'll see. While the story is getting tighter, we're still not exactly sure what anyone's doing. Let's review a bit. Des in altaworld is trying to wake everyone up, but what's his endgame? When they become more aware, what will they do next? Will they all get together. Will they off themselves to find true love in the other world? Will they go to Eloise and demand answers? Will they fight Smokey there?

On the island, well, the big news is Ilana's gone. She was the one with a plan, except it was Jacob's plan, and he never tells you what to do. This wasn't the first time she took one for the team, but it's the last. The island was finished with her, but so were the producers. You couldn't have a bunch of pampered Candidates counting on her to save them. Too bad we'll never get to see a rematch with Sayid. Maybe she'll be in the altaworld, though. She and Bram can finally get it on. (Good thing Miles didn't go with them when they kidnaped him, I guess.)

Flocke sort of has a plan--he's finally got the gang together, and should be ready for an assault on Widmore. But does he know how to take on Widmore? And will the gang be amenable? Even before that, what are they gonna say. Is he gonna convince them, like he convinced Sawyer? And if they don't agree, what will they do, where will they go, who will have the upper hand?

On Hydra Island, Widmore, for whatever reasons, is setting up his endgame. It's probably for power, though what kind of power and what will he do with it. And can he do it with Des at the bottom of a well? (Maybe that's where he'll want Des.) No doubt Zoe has already told Widdy they've lost the Package, so he'll have to make a move somehow.

Then there's the last of the Others, Ben and Richard, the leader and the advisor, with no one to boss around but Miles. (Is he still waiting for his $3.2 million from Ben?) They're wild cards now. But does Ben, as always, have a plan? They can't stand pat, can they? The war has come, and no pacifists allowed.

19 Comments:

Blogger John Brownlee said...

The sixth season's really getting its act together. Alt-Desmond's job is now clear: he's meant to nudge people in the direction towards their constant, and thus to merge their memories. It's not about near-death experiences as you claim here (or at least, that's not enough): Des' near-death experience only left him confused, but he didn't have his purpose until he met Penny.

Nudge, though, is the operative word: like Jacob, he's trying to put people in the position of making the right choice, not forcing them to make the right choice. In fact, in an alt-world without Jacob, Desmond IS Jacob, because he's the only one who can see the big picture right now.

So who are the constants? Sawyer and Juliet seem like fan favorite constants, but I don't think they'll go this root: I think it'll end up being Kate. Sun and Kim are likely constants, but since they're already involved, I don't know why it's not kicking in. I assume it'll all be explained in time. My guess? It's not each other, but their baby.

What was Desmond trying to accomplish with Locke, though? My guess is that it wasn't a hit, but actually meant to put Locke on the path to getting Jack to operate on his spine and "fix" him (as Jack also "fixed" his future wife in the first episode of season 2. Wasn't she also hit by a car?).

I think this theory at least explains what's going to happen in the alt-world for the rest of the season. There's six hours left. To wrap up the issue of constants and get everyone on the same page, you need one episode each to deal with.

Sawyer -- > Kate
Jack ---> Locke
Kim -+ Sun --> Baby Kwon?
Sayid ---> Nadia? (Will establishing his alt-world constant "fix" Sayid on the Island?)

If Sawyer and Kate are each other's constant (blech), you have another hour to play with... which I'd give to Ben. Rumor has it he has a "surprising" romance this season: my guess is its with Juliet. Is it possible that Juliet is Ben's constant?

Then you have one hour left to deal with Jacob's story.

For me, the big reveal will be whether or not Jack and Locke are each other's constants. If so, the show is going to end the same way the last episode of season five started: Jack as Jacob and Smokey as Locke, sitting on the beach, watching a ship come in. It always plays out the same. Man of science, man of faith.

12:32 AM, April 14, 2010  
Blogger LAGuy said...

Interesting idea. You see it as all about constants. But does "constant" in this case really mean soulmate--seems to be all about love this season. (Of course, that's what the show's always been about.)

I like your idea of Des getting Locke to a spinal surgeon, though, let's face it--pretty harsh. Of course, with Sun shot, and Hurley about to get a fried chicken induced heart attack, maybe they'll all meet at the hospital.

You seem to think Sawyer is headed for Kate. Maybe, but isn't it still Kate/Jack (she seemed pretty happy to see him come to the camp). And Sawyer should then go to Juliet, not Ben. Ben wanted Juliet, but they never clicked. Instead he's got Alex, even if it's a different sort of relationship.

Maybe Sawyer will take Kate to the hospital, and she'll see Jack and make her love connection, while Sawyer will see Juliet (she's a doctor, remember, and maybe she's also Jack's wife) and make his.

The big question to me is how does the alt-world merge with the Island world--will one have to be destroyed to make room for the other, or can we pick and choose parts of each. (I can't imagine both will continue on--already the altworld is getting contaminated by the "real" world.)

I hope the show doesn't end with another version of Jacob and Smokey. Like Jacob, I want to see progress.

12:45 AM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacob met all the candidates and touched them. Desmond runs them over.

1:10 AM, April 14, 2010  
Blogger John Brownlee said...

Hmm, interesting. You've introduced me to some new ideas here. You're right: it's all about love this season. That implies that even though a person you're not in love with CAN be a constant (remember that Desmond is Daniel's in the Island world, although it's Charlotte in the alt-world), this season's going to be all about love as the constant.

In that case, I think I change my mind about Jack and Locke being each other's constants. We basically just need to get all of the couples together, with the exception of Sun and Jin.

Here's how the could do it. Kkeep in mind Juliet, in her pre-Island life, was actually a baby doctor. Sun's been shot. Juliet can be introduced saving Sun and her baby's life, and once that baby's life is saved, there's the constant for both Sun and Jin.

Meanwhile, Juliet needs to have a reason why she thinks "it worked." There's two possibilities here: do death experiences work the same way on the Island as they do in the Alt-World, in that they allow people to become conscious of the other timeline? Or does Juliet meet her constant -- Sawyer -- in the alt world?

If so, how does that happen? Does Sawyer come to the hospital to investigate Locke's accident? Does he meet both Juliet AND Locke's father when he's there?

Finally, if Jack and Kate are each other's constants, how does Kate meet Jack? Does she sneak back to meet Claire? Does Jack know Claire's his half-sister in the alt-world?

My guess is Ben is going to get the short end of the stick here: Alt-Desmond is only concerned with passengers on the Flight 815 plane. He won't get a constant, but will somehow be formative in getting them all together.

The big problem with BOTH timelines right now, though, is that neither has established the stakes. We still don't know what happens if Smokey gets off the island: why is it a big deal? They need to answer that... judging from the season finale ("The End") my guess is we're going to see an alt-world apocalypse, with each "awakened" character doing, well, something to help out their Island counterparts and put Smokey down.

1:23 AM, April 14, 2010  
Blogger John Brownlee said...

In thinking it over... I don't think Locke needs a constant. Characters who are alive in 2007 need constants to "awaken" them in both realities (which doesn't mean they know exactly what to do, but they gain both purpose and confidence) .

A near-death experience seems to be all that is required for those who aren't alive in 2007, though. Charlie's obvious here, but Libby's a bigger stretch: my guess is Alt-Libby self-institutionalized because she tried to kill herself. Hopefully the show will make this clear.

If that's true, then Desmond HAD to run over Locke with a car and initiate the near-death experience to get him on the right path in the alt-timeline.

Watch the scene when Des hits Locke with the car again: he visibly flinches when he hits him. This isn't a guy loving what he's doing here, or operating out of revenge. It's an onerous task that has to be done.

Why does Alt-Locke need to be awakened, though? Why do any of these characters? Is Alt-Desmond just giving everyone closure and happy endings in alt-2004, since they won't have it in 2007? Or do they need to do something?

1:57 AM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was Libby institutionalized for the same reason she was originally--depression after her husband's death? I hope not.

What I want to know is what sort of flash does John Locke get when he's near death in altworld? Does he remember all that happened, including his own death? Does he get nothing because his character is dead?

8:17 AM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Des figures out the best way to get each candidate to see the other world. The easiest way with Locke was the quick car hit.

By the way, did you notice Hurley was meeting "Rosalita" at "Spanish Johnny's." Both Springsteen references.

I don't think Michael predicted Hurley would meet Libby again. He was really just saying goodbye.

8:55 AM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forgot to mention, the charity Chang mentioned at the museum was The Human Fund, which was George Costanza's old scam.

9:15 AM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

I am enjoying Season Six a lot. But I suspect that when the show is complete and we re-watch the whole thing, S6 (or at least the parts we have seen already) will be seen as one of the weakest seasons. Why? Because the vast majority of S6 has been devoted to answering questions: Who is Richard? What is the relationship between the real world and the altaworld? Who is the Man in Black? What is the island? What are the "whispers"? Who is Ilana? (Not all of these have been answered yet, but most have, and I'm sure the rest will be.)

The problem is that when we re-watch the series, we will already know the answers. That will make it more fun every time we hear whispers or see the smoke monster, because our hindsight will give us new perspective. But the revelation of the answers in S6 won't be as exciting.

And if you eliminate the answers, what really has happened in S6? Sayid was infected; Claire briefly fought Kate; there was a major attack on the Temple. Beyond that, it's mostly just been repeated shuffling of the characters: Richard meets Locke, Jin meets Claire, Richard and Ben join Ilana and Jack's group, Widmore and his gang arrive, Locke speaks to Ben and later to Sun, Hurley and Richard break their group in two, and lots of people (Sawyer, Jin, Locke, Sayid, Desmond) make trips back and forth between the main island and Hydra island. Most of the shuffling has been for the purpose of informative conversation. I suppose there will be a battle at some point, and the writers are making sure everyone is in just the right place, but that game was more fun at the end of season six when we knew who the Oceanic 6 were and were wondering how they would all end up together.

The altaworld stories have been interesting, but a good portion of their impact lies in the mystery of what the altaworld is, how it came to be, and whether the characters in it can perceive the regular world. Again, information. And if they end up erasing the altaworld at the end of the show, it will lose even more upon rewatching.

I'm not really complaining: at the end of a mystery story, I expect exposition.

5:48 PM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

Actually, I am complaining a little. Revealing information can be drama, if the characters react. When it was revealed that Juliet was spying for the Others, and then it was revealed that she wasn't, those were both great dramatic moments, because the reactions of everybody in the scene were fully human and believable.

But when you are in full exposition mode, characters don't react. Richard mentions in passing that he knows what the Island is (which I took to mean the cork thing), and nobody demands that he tell them. Why not? This is what they have all been yearning to know! But they don't, because even though it's a mystery to them, it's no longer a mystery to the audience -- we heard Jacob's cork-and-bottle speech three weeks ago.

On the other hand, Hurley made a big deal about finally learning what the Whispers are. This is a big deal to the audience. But I don't see why it's such a big deal to Hurley: according to the tally at Lostpedia he hasn't encountered the whispers very often himself.

So, while I think that exposition is good -- I want many questions answered! -- it feels as if the exposition in recent episodes has been at the expense of characterization and plot.

5:57 PM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

Anonymous asked:

Was Libby institutionalized for the same reason she was originally--depression after her husband's death?

Good question... I suspect it will never be answered.

What I want to know is what sort of flash does John Locke get when he's near death in altworld? Does he remember all that happened, including his own death? Does he get nothing because his character is dead?

Charlie is dead in the real world, but he still had flashes. Also, since it's only a few days after Oceanic 815 in the altaworld, all the flashes -- Desmond's, Charlie's, Libby's, and Hurley's -- are of events that happened in the "future" (going by the calendar) of the real world. In a literal correspondence, none of the altaworld people are really dead "yet". I wonder if alta-Desmond could induce flashes in the they could get the hundred passengers whose real-world counterparts died in the crash itself? Statistically, it's pretty amazing that with the complete manifest of the flight, he is only approaching folks who survived the initial crash....

6:04 PM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my guess -- the electromagnetic force switched the two Desmonds. That's why the one on the island is willing to cooperate with Widmore (just like he was in the alt-world), but seems kind of blank about what's going on there; and the one in the alt-world seems to completely buy into the island and is acting with a lot more determination about what needs to be done.

7:17 PM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any guess as to what Hugo saw in Ilana's little drawstring bag?

8:55 PM, April 14, 2010  
Blogger LAGuy said...

Some interesting ideas from Larry. Let me respond to a few.

First, I'm withholding judgment about the entire season until it's done. Then I'll have some perspective. However, it is my guess that complaints about how slow it moves won't matter as much when you can just pop in the next episode right away.

Good point that Season Six, simply because it's the last season, will gain the least from rewatching, since it gives the answers, and won't deepen the meaning of earlier scenes as much.

Still, emotion is what counts. A first sesaon scene like Sawyer telling Jack that his dad is proud of him will still hold up if you buy the characters and the emotion behind it. So as long as the altaworld has some meaning, the emotional payoffs in it could still play.

I also agree there's too much shuffling characters around. It does feel like a (three way) chess match where there's a strong wall of pawns and the players are simply fortifying their positions until they're ready for the big move.

On the other hand, I think a bit m ore has happened than you say.

You had Juliet die, the Smoke Monster kill Bram and the gang,you had the discovery of Kate, you had Locke's burial, we went inside the temple and met Dogen and Lennon, you had Richard lose faith (and regain it), you had Jack rethink his position and let things go, you saw new places such as the cave and the lighthouse, you have Sawyer recruited, you have Widmore return to the island (something he's been trying to do quite a while), you have Desmond kidnaped, you had Ben have a change of heart, you had Ilana die, and a number of other things. We expect such big revelations that when we get everyday plot movement, it seems like nothing.

I noted the whispers were never a big thing to Hurley. There are so many characters, you gotta concentrate when two meet--say Des and "Locke"--to remember when they last saw each other and what they know. I just assumed Hurley, who talks to everyone and keeps up on Island lore, would be interested in the Whispers the same way he was interested in the Smoke Monster.

It would have been better in the altaworld if Libby put herself in the booby hatch because she saw a Mr. Cluck's commercial and thought she'd gone crazy.

I wonder if Locke being hurt in altaworld affects Flocke on the island? And if Des knows this?

It's possible Des in altaworld is now more aware (because of the experiment on Des on the island) so he sort of knows who the "special" people in 815 are. After all, if he can have flashed about Penny, can't certain names and faces affect him more than others, so that he says "here's a guy I need to deal with."

Actually, I like anonymous's idea of Desmond's consciouness switching. Though the altaworld Des sure seemed confident, like the Des who's a fixer for Widmore.

I can't even guess what Hugo saw in Ilana's bag. It's a minor myster, though, and easy enough to solve any time they want to.

10:19 PM, April 14, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

Ilana's bag contained Jacob's ashes. Or are you suspecting it contained something additional?

2:22 PM, April 15, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if Jacob's ashes will still play a role in the show. I wonder if the actress who plays Ilana will still play a role in the show.

8:02 PM, April 15, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

Jacob's ashes are a mystery. If one of the Candidates replaces him, will Jacob's ashes still have power? Was Jacob the first caretaker of the island, or were there others before him? We have seen many ash-rings since season three: were these the remains of earlier Jacobs?

I had figured they were the volcano, which was ominously mentioned in season three. But it hasn't been mentioned since then, so I don't see how the volcano can suddenly come back into the story at this late point.

11:49 PM, April 16, 2010  
Blogger LAGuy said...

I don't know, a volcano would be a fine way to get rid of the island.

Just as I wrote that something hit me (perhaps you'll see the connection)--what happened to Annie?

2:34 AM, April 17, 2010  
Anonymous Lawrence King said...

In season five, I wondered whether that both Annie and the Volcano had been dropped. Now, if I had to bet, I would bet that they won't be seen or mentioned again.

It wouldn't be the first time that a fascinating bit of Season Three was dropped: Isabel, the "Sheriff" of the Others, was dropped unceremoniously.

Ben's birth and Dharma childhood was revealed in Season Three's "The Man Behind the Curtain", which is the only time that Annie was seen, and the only time the volcano was mentioned. In the episode commentary, Lindelof & Cuse indicated that both Annie and the volcano were important. Dramatically, Annie seemed very important. We saw a young Ben who was unhappy but not yet bitter, who had just one friend in the world -- Annie. Then the adult Ben was bitter, and yet even today carried around the doll Annie gave him.

But since then, Annie, the doll, and the volcano have never been seen or mentioned again. Moreover, we have been given what seems to be an alternate explanation for Ben's meanness (resuscitation in the Temple makes you ruthlessly loyal to the Others, as long as you are not "infected") and maybe even for the ash (cremated remains of someone, and/or ashes from Jacob's fire pit).

P.S. After writing the above, I just went to Lostpedia to see if Lindelof & Cuse had commented recently on Annie. I don't know if that counts as a "spoiler", so I'll just let you decide for yourself whether to read it.

12:59 PM, April 17, 2010  

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