Wednesday, March 10, 2010

Minneapolis Magic

The American Life Network airs old shows you don't see anywhere else these days--Hill Street Blues, LA Law, that sort of stuff. I noticed they have Mary Tyler Moore spinoffs Phyllis (starring Cloris Leachman) and Rhoda (starring Valerie Harper) back to back, so I checked them out. It was a theme hour--both episodes featured visits from Mary Richards (Mary Tyler Moore). But the plots were opposites.

First, Phyllis. Phyllis, who lives in San Francisco, calls Mary, in Minneapolis, and insists she fly over right away. Phyllis is trying to prove she has friends, and doesn't think Mary will take her seriously. Sure enough, good old Mar shows up that evening. When Phyllis finally admits the truth, Mary is angry (for Mary), though they do make up before she flies back.

On Rhoda, Mary is the cause of trouble. She shows up unexpectedly at Rhoda's door (in New York) just as Rhoda and husband Joe are about to leave on a weekend vacation. This causes friction, until Rhoda finally tells Mary the truth: she was about to leave...but would rather hang out with Mary anyway, so she stays.

Neither show truly holds up. The Mary Tyler Moore Show is brilliant, with a tremendous supporting cast, but I can see why these two shows are all but forgotten. Phyllis has a serious problem at the center. The Phyllis character on Mary was wacky but abrasive. They've smoothed her off for the show, but have a dull cast which gives her nothing to play against.

Rhoda is better, but still falls short. Rhoda is the star, so can't be the sad sack she was on Mary, which makes her less interesting. Luckily, her sister Brenda, well played by Julie Kavner, is Rhoda to Valerie Harper's Mary. But it's still not the same thing. Worse, they've saddled her with husband Joe, who's a pretty dull character, and whose dullness reflects upon Rhoda.

I can see why both shows had Mary visit. They wanted a little of the magic they left behind.

6 Comments:

Blogger New England Guy said...

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6:02 AM, March 10, 2010  
Blogger New England Guy said...

[Sorry this is the only way I know to fix typos in posted comments]

Funny even though I'm sure I watched it, the only thing I remember about the Phyllis show was the theme song - pretty catchy I thought.

While the Rhoda show was (I think) on longer, and I clearly remember the characters- the sister, the Quicker-Picker-Upper Bounty lady as the mother, Harold Gould, Carlton the doorman- the only actual show I remember is the one discussed here*. I remember Joe the husband being pretty pissed off that his vacation got ruined. Later in the series, Rhoda got divorced & Joe disappeared - I always blamed Mary.

* I tried hard and the only other Rhoda episode I can remember is about Julie Kavner dating someone who turns out to be married and would only take her out on dates in Jersey.

6:05 AM, March 10, 2010  
Anonymous Denver Guy said...

I've started watching the Rhoda episodes at Fancast. The first few are okay, but the change in Rhoda is pronounced (as was necessary. Frankly, I've enjoyed Brenda (the future Mrs. Simpson) and Carlton the Door Man (the future Grfield the cat) the most.

I don't think I ever saw Phyllis in its original run (or since).

My real wish is that Fancast would add more Mary Tyler Moore episodes - they stop before we get to Betty White.

7:58 AM, March 10, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The morphing of Valerie Harper from very ethnic Rhoda on MTM to the shrewish WASP on Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family (before she was killed off as the mother and replaced by Sandy Duncan as the "aunt" who lived with her "brother") is very stark.

9:31 AM, March 10, 2010  
Blogger LAGuy said...

By far the most famous Rhoda episode is where she got married . It was a big TV event, and had the whole MTM cast drop in (even if that didn't really make any sense). It was pretty well done, and got huge ratings. But like so many jump the shark moments, after they get married, what do you do? You've got a new and worse show on your hands. So eventually they tried divorcing the two, which was better than having them married, but still not satisfactory.

11:26 AM, March 10, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the theme song to Phyllis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8--8V7bVeI

It's definitely a parody of Mame.

2:04 PM, March 10, 2010  

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